摘要：EV’s are cheaper to operate than a gas car, but their resale values are horrible. It’s a mix of factors - incentives, changing tec
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EV’s are cheaper to operate than a gas car, but their resale values are horrible. It’s a mix of factors - incentives, changing tech and limited appeal. It’s a problem for EV adoption, especially as automakers try to attract more mainstream buyers. Here’s why they can be more expensive to own than a gas car, and why that might change.
EV（电动汽车）的运营成本比燃油车便宜，但其二手车价值非常低。这是多种因素的混合——补贴、技术变化和有限的吸引力。这对于电动汽车的普及是个问题，尤其是在汽车制造商试图吸引更多主流买家的时候。以下是为什么它们的拥有成本可能比燃油车更高，以及为什么这种情况可能会改变的原因。
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First incongruent thing said “is a bad investment” it is not an investment. It is an expense. It is a depreciating asset
首先说的“不好的投资”是不对的，它不是投资，而是支出，它是一个贬值资产。
@rebeltheharem7028
Cars aren't investments. They are use assets. So if you buy any car, hoping it will keep its value, you are dreaming.
车子不是投资，它们是使用型资产。所以如果你买任何车，指望它保值，那你是在做梦。
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@The_Moderates_Apprentice
Keep in mind that cost of entry into ANY new car beit gas or EV is way too high. Someone like myself with a 5+ year old vehicle that is paid off is simply not looking to buy anything at all period doesn't matter if it's new or used, gas or electric. Many people like me would rather drive our cars into the ground than have another car payment in this economy.
记住，任何新车的入手成本，不管是燃油车还是电动汽车，都太高了。像我这种拥有一辆已经开了五年多、还清贷款的车的人，根本不打算买任何新车或二手车，无论是燃油车还是电动汽车。像我这样的人宁愿把车开到报废，也不想在这种经济情况下再背上车贷。
@josephsmith594
Biggest scam, people buying cars to sell them. My neighbor went through three cars in five years. The sold his house because he blew all his money on cars.
这是个最大的骗局，大家都买车为了转卖。我邻居五年内换了三辆车，结果他卖了房子，因为他把所有钱都花在了车上。
@ronnievanwolf9923
“Here’s a list for cars with the lowest depreciation rates” starts the list with a dam Porsche 911. If I could afford one of those I’m probably not too worried about the depreciation rate on a depreciating asset…
“这里是贬值率最低的车单”居然从保时捷911开始。如果我能负担得起那种车，估计我也不太会担心它作为贬值资产的贬值率了……
@kilsignal
Anything tech depreciates quickly this is nothing new.
任何技术产品都很快贬值，这没什么新奇的。
@11Hammers
I invested all of my money into a luxury car. It didn’t grow in value. I’m so disappointed.
我把所有的钱都投进了豪华车，但它的价值没有增长，真是太失望了。
@coryw.9086
When I tried to trade my Model Y in it was very difficult. Most dealers just wanted a wholesale buyer, they didn’t want any used EV’s for retail as they are hard to sell. Finally a Lexus dealer gave me the best trade value….which was still shockingly low.
当我尝试换掉我的Model Y时，非常困难。大多数经销商只想要批发买家，他们不想要任何二手电动汽车，因为它们很难卖。最终，一家雷克萨斯经销商给了我最好的交易价值……但那还是让人震惊地低。
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@fourteenfour1
Well there is that small problem that most of them came with a $7500 IRA credit which should be factored in if not written off the original sales price to determine how much value they lost.
嗯，还有一个小问题，大部分电动汽车都有$7500的IRA补贴，这个应当计算进去，或者从原销售价格中扣除，以确定它们贬值了多少。
@callaway5148
The $7,500 credit was also terrible for prices. If these incentives stay eliminated, by next year the prices are going to creep down to the effective price they had been "after rebate."
$7500的补贴对价格也有负面影响。如果这些补贴继续取消，明年价格将逐渐下降到“扣除补贴后的实际价格”。
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@memsu06
I want what's available in China. Hybrid drivetrain where the electric motors are powered by the battery pack, but it also has a small internal combustion engine that's sole purpose is to keep the battery pack charged. This allows the internal combustion engine to operate a optimum rpm all the time. Do this with a 600+ mile range and it's perfect for the transition over to full electric. Just pushing full electric out the gate was going to fail. Also, EVs aren't as green as they are touted to be. The power to charge them comes from a power plant somewhere. Not to mention the rare Earth elements they need and the mining operations that have to get that.
我想要中国市场上的车。混合动力系统，电动机由电池组提供动力，但它还有一个小的内燃机，唯一的目的是保持电池组充电。这样内燃机可以始终保持在最佳转速运转。做一个600+英里的续航，这对过渡到全电动汽车是完美的。直接推出全电动汽车是注定失败的。另外，电动汽车并不像宣传的那样环保。给它们充电的电力来自某个发电厂。更不用说它们需要的稀土元素和必须进行的采矿操作了。
@DeliciousHoneyDewDew2
I love the fact that EVs depreciate so much. I can buy my next EV at a ridiculous discount. I have 150,000 miles on my Model Y with no issues but replacing tires every 30,000 miles. It may be a while before I need another vehicle.
我喜欢电动汽车贬值这么快的事实。这样我可以以荒唐的折扣买到下一个电动汽车。我已经开了15万英里，Model Y没有任何问题，只是每3万英里要换一次轮胎。可能我还要一段时间才需要换车。
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@guillaumegiroux9425
I bought a 2020 Tesla Model 3 Long Range with 166,000km for 22,000$cad. Brand new, it is 70,000$cad here.
I love it, but I must keep it long as it won’t resell much.
我买了一辆2020年特斯拉Model 3 Long Range，行驶了166,000公里，价格是22,000加元。全新车在这里要70,000加元。
我很喜欢这辆车，但我必须长期保留它，因为它的二手车价值不高。
@yuchen2136
Incentatives should be subtracted when you calculate depreciation. Depreciation is the difference between what you actually pay vs how much you get when you sell. So if you got an incentative, what you actually paid is minus incentative.
计算贬值时应该扣除补贴。贬值是你实际支付的金额和你卖车时得到的金额之间的差额。所以如果你获得了补贴，你实际支付的金额就应该减去补贴。
@andrewschliewe6392
If battery durability is getting better then increase the length of the warranty on the battery.
如果电池的耐用性在提高，那就应该延长电池的保修期。
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@ashbybashby
My friend paid 40k. A few years later, someone t bones the car. He was told by insurance that they do not repair them, and got 16k in depreciated value. He is not replacing this vehicle.
我朋友花了4万美元买的车，几年后，有人撞了他的车。他被保险公司告知他们不修这种车，最终赔了16,000美元的贬值金额。他不打算替换这辆车了。
@CSHarvey
Media keeps trying to assert this as a bad thing. "Don't buy an EV, your resale value in 5 years will be garbage!" Meanwhile, everyone who couldn't afford a new EV thanks you for subsidizing the 'barely used EV market' with your cheap resale.
Unlike an ICEv, EV powertrains don't fall apart at 75k miles, they easily last over 200k miles. People think they need a new car every 5-7 miles because gas engines implode after 150k miles, so folks sell them around 75k miles before the expensive repairs start showing up.
Meanwhile, EV battery systems are warranted to 8yrs/100k miles, and can easily last another 100k miles without issue. Selling them at 75k miles is like selling a gas car before you've even paid off the loan.
But hey, all the folks who couldn't afford a new $50k EV thanks you for taking the hit and passing it along for $25k.
媒体一直试图把这当作坏事来看。“不要买电动汽车，你五年后的二手车价值将一文不值！”同时，那些买不起新电动汽车的人感谢你通过廉价转售补贴了“几乎全新的电动汽车市场”。
与内燃机车不同，电动汽车的动力系统在75,000英里时不会坏掉，它们轻松可以跑到200,000英里以上。人们认为自己每5-7年就需要一辆新车，因为燃油发动机在150,000英里后会“爆炸”，所以大家都会在75,000英里时就把车卖掉，避免昂贵的修理费用。
而电动汽车的电池系统有8年/100,000英里的保修期，而且可以轻松再跑100,000英里没有问题。在75,000英里时卖掉它们就像在你还没还完贷款时就把燃油车卖了。
不过，嘿，所有那些买不起5万美元新电动汽车的人感谢你承担了这个损失，并以2.5万美元转手卖掉。
@1983dmd
You are wrong on the incentive point: Automakers lowered their EV prices when the incentives were removed. They even lowered the price more than the incentive because they are stuck with them on their lots.
你在补贴问题上错了：当补贴取消时，汽车制造商降低了电动汽车的价格。他们甚至降低了比补贴还要多的价格，因为他们的库存积压了很多。
In the UK many EVs are leased through company salary sacrifice. Effectively a 40% discount on the monthly lease as an inducement to buy a EV. So basically even the initial purchaser of the car doesn’t truly believe it’s worth the full sticker price.
在英国，很多电动汽车是通过公司薪资牺牲计划租赁的。实际上，相当于每月租赁费用有40%的折扣，作为购买电动汽车的诱因。所以，实际上即使是最初购买这辆车的人，也不是真的认为它值全价。
Bought a 2020 Tesla a year ago. Just checked prices and a car like mine is priced $2000 higher, even though it has twice as many miles and is now a year older. Also no $4000 incentive. Really glad I bought when I did.
我一年前买了一辆2020年的特斯拉。刚查了一下价格，像我这辆车的售价比我当时买的贵了2000美元，尽管它的行驶里程是我的两倍，而且已经多了一岁。更别说4,000美元的补贴也没有了。真庆幸我当时买的早。
When I buy a vehicle I operate it until the wheels fall off, so depreciation isn't relevant to me (except to the degree it affects insurance rates).
我买车是一直开到它报废为止，所以贬值对我来说不重要（除了它对保险费用的影响之外）。
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