摘要：Meanwhile,eanwhile,a bit of an oversight, no? It seems as though western women are more concerned with men leaving the dating mark

Meanwhile,eanwhile,a bit of an oversight, no? It seems as though western women are more concerned with men leaving the dating market and finding love elsewhere. Relationships are somewhat transactional. Foreign women offer lower “rates” (keeping with the analogy), which obviously disrupts the local dating market. The generalization of all men who go overseas as weirdos is an outdated stereotype.

I am specifically talking about western men who find genuine love overseas. I am specifically excluding predators who go to seedy underground child brothels in Thailand.

人们总是指责“护照兄弟”(拿着护照去海外寻找恋情的西方男人)，却无视那些离婚的西方女人们大批跑去牙买加和冈比亚，体验当地文化。我看过一些航班视频，满机舱都是四五十岁的英国女人，她们想找个年轻男人，并以“金钱补偿”为交换。而那些较贫穷的男性也欣然接受。这是不是有点双重标准呢？

看起来，西方女性更在意的是男性退出本地婚恋市场，转而在别处找到爱情。谈恋爱多少带有一些“交易性”，而外国女性的“条件”更低（只是个比喻），自然会扰乱本地的婚恋市场。把所有出国寻找伴侣的男性一概归为“怪人”的说法，其实早已是过时的刻板印象。

声明一下：我这里特指那些真正去海外寻找爱情的西方男性，并不包括那些去肮脏的泰国地下儿童妓院的人渣。

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MommaLatte

Pink Pill Woman

If you go over to the passport bro sub, they talk about woman like they’re cattle and how to get the best bang for your buck. What women are the hottest and still willing to settle for an ugly foreigner over a local. What women are gonna be good submissive partners that are not too westernized. What countries are “safe” (since they have to go to the shittiest places in the world to even get attention).

And then you look at the passport bros themselves, most are barely middle class by western standards so they’re also looking for “sales” where they won’t have to spend TOO much money because you know, wouldn’t want a gold digger now would we. A big point they make is also not to bring her back overseas because they correctly hypothesize that if she becomes westernized and gets to equal footing as them she’s more likely to leave, because again the desperation of poverty is what makes this entire thing work. They also complain that most girls are “bad” because they expect the man to pay for girls families without realizing that the entire reason this poor girl would give this creep a chance is because she wants to provide for her family. And then the girl is always half the weight, always younger, and always prettier than the creep that went over and bought her.

如果你去看看“护照兄弟”的论坛版块，他们把女人当牲畜一样来讨论，谈的是如何花钱最值。哪些女人最性感，而且愿意选择一个丑陋的外国人而不是本地男人。哪些女人会是乖顺的伴侣，不会太西化。哪些国家算是“安全”的（因为他们必须跑到世界上最落后的地方才能引起注意）。

然后再看看这些“护照兄弟”本人，大多数按西方标准来看也只是勉强算中产，所以他们在找“打折”的机会，不用花太多钱，因为你懂的，他们可不想要一个拜金女。他们还特别强调不要把女人带回西方，因为他们很正确地认识到，如果女人变得西化，拥有和他们平等的地位，就更可能会离开，因为这些女人与他们建立关系的基础就是贫困带来的无奈。他们还抱怨大多数女孩是“坏的”，因为这些女孩希望男人能资助她的家庭，却没意识到这个可怜的女孩之所以会给这些猥琐男一个机会，根本原因就是她想养家。然后这些女孩永远都是体重只有男方的一半，永远更年轻，永远比跑去“买”她的猥琐男更漂亮。

The entire thing is offputting to me. Passport bros leverage the desperation you won’t understand unless you’ve grown up in true poverty with no upwards social mobility like opportunistic parasites. And then they act moral about it, there was a post on there recently talking about how the guy was lucky because his wife was one of the “grateful” ones since she knows if it wasn’t for him she would still be stuck in her shitty third world country as a dishwasher and instead he gave her a life where she can pursue a degree in chemistry. I am happy this girls gets to study chemistry, what’s disgusting to me is she has to sleep with this ogre to do it just because she was born in the wrong country.

And disclaimer, not mad at people who just fall in love with women in different countries. If you had a normal dating life before and you have legit reasons to go abroad (like work or vacation with your friends) and you and your wife are in the same league then it’ll be fairly easy to realize you’re not a passport bro.

整个事情让我觉得很恶心。 “护照兄弟”在利用那种你若不是在真正贫困以及毫无社会流动性的环境中长大就无法理解的绝望，就像机会主义吸血鬼一样。更可笑的是他们还装作有道德感，最近有一个帖子里，一个男人自夸自己很幸运，因为他的妻子是“懂得感恩”的那一类，她知道如果没有他，她还会困在自己烂透的第三世界国家当洗碗工，而他却给了她一个能获得化学学位的生活。我很高兴这个女孩能学化学，但让我恶心的是，她为了做到这一点必须和这个丑陋的怪物上床，只因为她出生在错误的国家。

声明一下，我并不讨厌那些爱上外国女人的人。如果你之前的恋爱经历很正常，而且你出国是因为正当理由（比如工作或者和朋友去度假），你和你的妻子实力相当，那你就不是所谓的“护照兄弟”。

NonbinaryYolo

The dudes I know that have done this shit, are retired men that spent their lives busting their ass for families they're now alienated from. They don't go for little 20 somethings, they marry driven women maybe 5 years younger.

You don't have to be living in poverty to want a life with a western man. You think well off women don't like the idea off meeting a guy from another country, developing a connection, and then moving away?

You think locals have no interest in having some fun with a tourist, and then moving on with their lives?

Western girls will get taken on all expense trips paid, and they don't even appreciate it they are so fucking bitter. THAT'S the shit passport bros want to get away from. Western women are the antithesis of romance. Holy fuck.

我认识的做过这种事的，都是一些退休的男人，他们为家庭拼了一辈子，结果反而和家人关系疏远了。他们不会去找二十出头的小姑娘，而是娶一些有上进心的女人，可能就小五岁。

外国女人并不都是生活在贫困中才会想和一个西方男人一起生活。你觉得富裕的外国女人就不会喜欢上一个外国男人、发展感情然后同居吗？

你觉得当地女人就没有兴趣和外国游客玩玩，然后继续自己的生活吗？

西方女人可以得到全额支付的旅行，但她们根本不懂得感恩，只会怨气冲天。这就是“护照兄弟”想要逃避的。西方女人就是浪漫的反面。去TM的。

proventruetoolate

What do you want men to do when women in West have unreasonable looks and height requirements and the average looking woman doesn't want average looking men?

当西方女人有不合理的外貌和身高要求，当一个普通长相的西方女人看不上普通长相的西方男人时，你认为西方男人们应该怎么办？

Shebalied

News flash, people don't want most western women. You see just as many old bossy ladies as you do men going overseas to get men. I will never understand why western women talk to Muslim men thinking they can change them.

大多数人并不想要西方女人。你会看到很多西方大龄强势女人去国外找男人。但我永远不明白为什么西方女人要和穆斯林男人谈恋爱，还以为能改变他们。

meangingersnap

Are you implying western women are interested in Muslim men? lMao

你是在暗示西方女人对穆斯林男人有兴趣吗？笑死我了。

MommaLatte

I think the men and women passport people are equally creepy.

The only cases I’m okay with are ones with decent SMV so they’re able to pull back home but they’re still able to get better options overseas. If they treat their partners respectfully and they still choose to stay even after getting their citizenship then I can’t really be mad about that.

我觉得“护照男”和“护照女”都一样令人感到厌恶。

唯一我能接受的情况是：有些人的“性魅力”还算不错，在本国也能找到对象，但他们出国能有更好的选择。如果他们尊重伴侣，而伴侣即便拿到国籍后仍然选择继续在一起，那我也没什么好指责的。

Shebalied

Most people see Western people men and women as loud and obnoxious. You add in current values of zoomers that just makes things worse.

大多数人觉得西方男人和女人又吵闹又讨厌。再加上现在年轻一代（Z世代）的价值观，只会让情况更糟。

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twistednormz

just a regular woman

OP have you been overseas? Have you met any of these guys? I spent several years living in an Asian country and met enough of them to know that they generally have some combination of the following: 1. Unable to hold down a job for long. 2. Poor social skills. 3. Anger issues. 4. Failure to launch syndrome. Basically they are children who refuse to grow up and take responsibility for themselves but they still want the sex, and are angry that women back home won't give it to them. Why are you defending these guys? (And of course there's nothing wrong with living in another country and dating local people but that's not who "passport bros" are).

Twistednormz

楼主，你出过国吗？你见过这些“护照兄弟”吗？我在亚洲某国生活了好几年，见过足够多这种人，通常他们都有以下几种情况：

1.无法长期稳定工作。

2.社交技能差。

3.脾气差。

4.巨婴。基本上就是拒绝长大、不想为自己负责的孩子，但还是想要性关系，并且因为本国女人不给他们而愤怒。你为什么要为这些人辩护？（当然，住在外国并和当地人谈恋爱没有任何问题，但那不是“护照兄弟”的定义）。

Albedo200

Purple Pill Man

You have never seen some people with those same combination except for poor social skills maybe get sex and even relationship in the west? Heck, i could argue some far worse people in the west are having sex because of their good looks or wealth.

And besides these guys arent having sex with you, they are having sex with other women who might not care or have your criteria as requirements.

Albedo200

你没见过有些西方男人，即便具备你列举的种种缺点（除了可能没有社交障碍），也依然能与女性发生性关系甚至谈恋爱。说真的，我甚至能举例一些更糟糕的人，他们在西方照样有人愿意跟他们上床，只因为他们长得好看或有钱。

再说了，这些男人又不是和你发生关系，他们是和那些不在乎你制定的标准的女人谈恋爱。

proventruetoolate

I'm defending these men because women with all these faults and then some get laid left and right in the US and Europe?

Why do you hate men and hold them to higher standards than women?

我为这些男人辩护，是因为在美国和欧洲，很多女人也有你说的这些缺点甚至更多，但依然可以跟很多人上床。

你为什么仇恨男人，为什么要用更高的标准来要求男人？

harmonica2

Purple Pill Man

but why is it that asian woman are so easy that they will give it to these guys compared to western women?

harmonica2

所以为什么亚洲女人比西方女人更容易接受这些男人呢？

Junior\\\\_Ad\\\\_3086

your SMV goes up a lot if you go to a 3rd world country as a western man. locals are shorter, make a lot less money, you might get bonus points for being exotic and some women look for more egalitarian partners than their local men.

作为一个西方男人，如果你去第三世界国家，你的“性魅力”会大幅提升。本地人更矮、收入低得多，你可能因为“异域感”加分，还有些女人想找比本地男人更尊重她们的伴侣。

Alwaysnthered

50/25/25 Black/Red/Blue Pill Man

wow who cares? honestly? so what?

let these men do their thing. it's not affecting you.

what's up with the shaming?

dont like how men are going overseas to find women since a lot of women back home are becoming insufferable?

don't like your attention being taken away?

I know you love the attention.

and im literally from one of these countries. yes there are lot of weird men going overseas, but a lot aren't what you describe at all.

Also, I think OP is describing the new wave of passport bros that are more well adusted, looking for family etc but the dating market in the west has become so brutal it's hard to find someone that matches their values, not the old 65 year beer belly in the chang t shirt in phuket thailand predator hopping with 19 year old women.

Alwaysnthered

哇，谁在乎啊？说真的，有什么大不了？

让这些男人做自己的事吧，这又没影响到你。

干嘛要羞辱他们？

你是不是不喜欢男人去国外找女人，因为本地很多女人越来越让人受不了？

你是不是不喜欢他们把本该属于你的关注抢走了？

我知道你们喜欢被关注。

我本人来自你口中所谓的落后国家。是的，确实有很多古怪的外国男人来我们国家，但也有很多根本不是你说的那种人。

另外，我觉得楼主想说的是正常的 “护照兄弟”，他们更适应环境，想组建家庭等等。但西方的约会市场已经变得太残酷，很难找到符合他们价值观的人。和那种65岁、大肚腩、穿着啤酒衫在泰国普吉岛到处找19岁女孩的老色狼完全不是一回事。

Junior\\\\_Ad\\\\_3086

that doesn't describe all of them though. the ones you mentioned stick out like a sore thumb and will be noticed much more and i'm not going to lie, a lot of men fit that descxtion especially around SEA which attracts a lot of sex tourists anyway (so not really PBBs).

i lived as a digital nomad for the better part of a decade, including places in SEA, EE and LATAM which are the most popular destinations to date abroad for men, generally speaking. i met a lot of travelers, expats, guys who date foreign women of all age groups. some of them would have zero issues dating anywhere in the world tbh, although they mostly don't just travel for women/dating i'd guess.

i've also experienced it myself and i can see why men would choose to look elsewhere when it comes to dating (depending on their preferences of course). if there wasn't a relatively high barrier of entry, i think A LOT more men would explore their options overseas. even guys who are pretty successful with women can see big improvements in their dating lives, depending on what they're looking for. honestly, it's hard to blame men for exploring their options and nowadays i don't think it's just the old fat weirdos who choose to go this path. i think at least some of the hate that comes from women is based on the fact that they don't want more competition and they don't want dating abroad to become more normalized.

look at this guy, he doesn't exactly seem like a loser yet looked in the phillippines for love and ended up relocating there. i think men like this will become more common as the world is still globalizing and the western dating market is at an all time low in many ways.

一些人并不能代表所有人。你提到的那些人只是很扎眼，所以更容易被注意到，说实话，确实有不少男人符合那种描述，尤其是在东南亚——那本来就是吸引寻欢者的地方（这些人不算是“护照兄弟”）。

我作为国际游民生活了差不多十年，走过东南亚、东欧、拉美，这些都是男人最常去的跨国约会目的地。我遇到过很多旅行者、外派人员、和不同年龄段外国女性交往的男人。有些人其实在世界任何地方都能轻松约会，虽然我猜他们大多数不只是为了女人或约会才旅行。

我自己也体验过，所以我能理解为什么有些男人会选择到别处寻找恋爱机会（当然取决于他们的偏好）。如果不是因为门槛相对较高，我觉得会有更多男人去海外寻找更好的选择。即使是那些和女人相处已经挺成功的男人，也可能在海外大幅改善他们的约会生活。

说真的，男人去探索自己的选择并不难理解，而如今选择这条路的也不仅仅是那些老胖怪人。我认为有部分女性的反感，是因为她们不想面对更多竞争，也不希望海外约会变得正常化。

看看这个视频博主，这个人看起来完全不像个失败者，但他还是去菲律宾找爱情，最后甚至搬过去了。我觉得以后这种男人会越来越常见，因为世界还在继续全球化，而西方的约会市场在很多方面正处于最糟糕的境地。

OddRemove2000

Red Pill Man

I'm a man who all my life have heard women say I'm not good enough for love. I disagree. Even if I need to go overseas to find it.

Nothing wrong with being a loser if you want to be. I'm a proud loser. Lay off.

我是那种一辈子都在听女人说我不配得到爱情的男人。但我不同意。就算我必须出国去寻找爱情，也无所谓。

如果你愿意做“失败者”，那又没什么错。我就是个自豪的失败者。别来烦我。

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