摘要：Bloomberg in partnership with Open to Debate hosts a debate. The U.S. and China dominate the semiconductor race — America with cap
Bloomberg in partnership with Open to Debate hosts a debate. The U.S. and China dominate the semiconductor race — America with capital, Silicon Valley culture and trade restrictions, China with resources and talent. Europe is often seen as hampered by regulation, labor laws and limited venture capital. Yet with a near-monopoly on lithography and rising demand for tech sovereignty, Europe may be better positioned than many think. Can it catch up — or is it too late?
彭博社与Open to Debate合作举办了一场辩论。美国和中国主导着半导体竞争——美国凭借资本、硅谷文化和贸易限制，中国则依靠资源和人才。欧洲常被视为受限于监管、劳动法和有限的风险资本。然而，凭借在光刻技术上的近乎垄断地位以及对技术主权日益增长的需求，欧洲的竞争力可能比许多人想象的更强。它能赶上吗——还是已经太晚了？
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Europe should focus on designing the most advantage bottle cap
欧洲应该专注于设计最有优势的瓶盖。
@pappelg2639
Yes. But, new world - new possibilities. 1. Do not focus on EU - we need supplemental orgs 2. Build transnational organ for investment in key industries with new key members EU/non EU. 3. Make new defense org. "coalition of the willing" into new European Nato. Split into regions, like nordic which is already working together. Expand coop. 3. transform EU slowly into what will be future EU but remember that Trump would not be able to do in EU today what he did in the USA. With a United States of Europe, we can one day have our own Trump. Lets cherich our differences but work better together.
是的。但，新的世界——新的可能性。
不要只关注欧盟——我们需要补充性的组织。
建立跨国投资关键产业的组织，加入新的重要成员，欧盟/非欧盟国家。
建立新的防务组织，将“愿意的联盟”发展成新的欧洲北约。可以按地区划分，比如北欧已经在合作。扩大合作。
慢慢转变欧盟，变成未来的欧盟，但要记住，特朗普今天如果在欧盟做的事，是做不到的。在一个统一的欧洲，我们有一天也许会有自己的特朗普。让我们珍惜我们的差异，但更好地一起合作。
@whatyousaid1375
Main reason is Europe needs to get its daddy’s permission first on everything. Just look at Dutch has to take an order to rob a Chinese company speaks a lot itself.
主要原因是欧洲在所有事情上都需要先得到“爸爸”的许可。看看荷兰为了抢夺一家中国公司而必须接受命令，这本身就说明了很多问题。
@nulnoh219
The problem isn't they are 30 different countries with 30 different governments. The problem is these 30 countries tripping over themselves, squabbling about every little problem.
问题不在于他们是30个不同的国家，有30个不同的政府。问题在于这30个国家互相绊倒，争论每一个小问题。
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@TheMartino999
You are absolutely right. However, I am sure the reasons which you have already mentioned are only the tip of the iceberg
你完全正确。然而，我确信你已经提到的原因只是冰山一角。
@trogdortpennypacker6160
Europe is honestly the neo-Soviet unx, bureaucratic and slow, and behind the US and Asia in technology.
欧洲诚实地说就像新苏联，官僚主义严重，行动缓慢，在技术上落后于美国和亚洲。
@PengZhang-1
I'm from China, and I don't think it's too late for Europe to develop chips. They can do it by robbery, such as seizure of Nexpera.
我来自中国，我认为欧洲开发芯片还不算太晚。他们可以通过抢夺，比如夺取Nexpera来实现。
@MrZerged
Europe is bloody cooked. If they were going to do something they would have already. Instead we have this made for TV drivel where they say are going to do something, not spend billions and sit around and procure from the world but no Euro first.
Meanwhile their talent is all with US firms…HMMmm…shit show? Yeaaaaaa
欧洲彻底完蛋了。如果他们要做些什么，早就做了。现在不过是这种为电视制作的胡扯，他们说要做什么，结果没花费几十亿，只是在世界上采购，却没有“欧洲优先”。与此同时，他们的人才都被美国公司抢走了……嗯……这就是个闹剧吧？是的，没错。
@catinbootsnow4267
Just simply look at the history of Airbus in the global competition with Boeing.
And the history of Nokia and Ericsson in the global competition with Lucent, Motorola, Cisco and Nortel.
看看空中客车与波音在全球竞争中的历史。
再看看诺基亚和爱立信与卢森特、摩托罗拉、思科和北电网络在全球竞争中的历史。
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@elisgus135
LMao the fact that the EU can't compete in chip production while making the very lithography machines used to make the most high end chips honestly shows how incredibly useless their governments are. I guess that's what they get for subordinating themselves to the US for 80 years.
哈哈，欧盟无法在芯片生产上竞争，尽管他们制造了用于生产最先进芯片的光刻机，这真是显示了他们政府的无能。我想这就是他们服从美国80年后的结果吧。
@AthleticHobo-br4qh
20 years ago people would laugh endlessly at the idea of China competing in semiconductors and vehicles. With the right policies its possible for Europe to grow its own leading edge design and manufacturing supply chain.
20年前，如果说中国能在半导体和汽车领域竞争，大家都会笑个不停。只要政策得当，欧洲是有可能发展出自己的领先设计和制造供应链的。
Lithography machines rely on research and patents made by US scientists— which the Dutch bought and commercialized. Those machines aren’t standalone and very much rely on US and rest of the world
光刻机依赖于美国科学家做的研究和专利——荷兰人买下并商业化了这些技术。这些机器并不是独立运作的，很大程度上依赖于美国以及全球其他国家的技术。
@JackJack-lv2fj
Europe can't do much. If they try to compete the US steps in. Till that relationship is broken the US runs europe
欧洲做不了太多。如果他们试图竞争，美国就会介入。在这种关系没有打破之前，美国控制着欧洲。
@charabotte1
we don't need chips (except potato chips).
我们不需要芯片（除了薯片）。
@joeinthe6
Europe retired a few years ago unfortunately, "innovation legacy" is all they have. Spend more time advocating for holidays and number of vacation days than getting anything done. Couldn't believe I was in Germany and France this year when I visited after not going for a few years
欧洲几年前已经退休了，不幸的是，“创新遗产”是他们唯一的资本。比起做事，他们更花时间为假期和休假天数辩护。我简直不敢相信我今年去了德国和法国，几年没去过，回去后觉得很不一样。
The 40 billion in US AI chips isn't 'forced' upon Europe. All nations have been actively seeking access to GPU's which are essential to AI development, however demand is so high that Nvidia is struggling to produce enough.
美国40亿美元的AI芯片并不是“强迫”欧洲的。各国一直在积极寻求获得GPU，这对于AI发展至关重要，但需求如此之高，以至于Nvidia难以生产足够的芯片。
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