摘要：Indian here and with all the racism, propaganda (main problem), some genuine critiques going against us I wanna rant here (not try

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Indian here and with all the racism, propaganda (main problem), some genuine critiques going against us I wanna rant here (not tryna ignore India's problem)

Most of yall don't know how bad down india was after birtish left. We had 12% literacy rate, millions killed during colonial rule and hundreds of thousands killed during partition, 45 trillion dollar looted (adjusted to inflation), a lot of fking diversity (it's like entire europe inside one), famine, drought, life expectancy was around 32 years, textiles and other industries destroyed, gdp ratio from 30% during hindu rulers to 24% during mughals to 3% after british and most imp the brits DELIBERATELY DESTROYED OUR CULTURE which india has been trying to recover since then. I strongly believe it would be better for india to be physically destroyed by nukes than to be destroyed everyday for 200 years

It was then and ONLY in 75 years, india has a cool space agency, 4th strongest military in the world, 3rd strongest air force, 4th largest economy and fastest growing, only country to form nukes itself, nucleur triad, indigenous 5th gen jet by 2026, great unis, an actual democratic system going on, back office of the world (not so proud out of it), will make it's own platforms and lots of tech startups by 2030 (proud of it), some cool infrastructure, goated intellegence, made Semiconductors (7 years behind taiwan), goated diplomacy, actual PRIDE in our foreign affairs etc etc

By 2030 india can have A LOT of things going on. I maybe optimistic but I strongly believe that india can be the creative capital of the world (video games, animations, designs, bollywood, webs series etc etc), can form it's own indigenous tech, actually do something towards roads, replace boeing for Comercial planes (just signed a deal to do so), remove the financial regulations, produce indigenous space equipments, defense tech and an asian alternative to China in manufacturing

The whole point was that, india has been independent for 75 years ONLY with A LOT worse initial start than many countries, canada gained independence in 1867, usa in 1776, China and japan were never colonized

Said that, we have 100s of major problems and should get to work, fck Churchill and rant over THANK YOU

我是一个印度人。面对所有的种族歧视、宣传（这是主要问题）以及一些针对我们的真实批评，我想在这里宣泄一下（我并不是想无视印度的问题）。

你们大多数人不知道英国人离开后，印度的处境有多么糟糕。我们的识字率只有12%，殖民统治期间数百万人丧生，印巴分治时又有数十万人死亡，45万亿美元（根据通胀调整后）被掠夺，国内的多样性极其复杂（就像把整个欧洲塞进一个国家），还有饥荒、干旱，人均预期寿命大约只有32岁。纺织业和其他工业被摧毁，GDP占比从印度教统治时期的30%降到莫卧儿时期的24%，再到英国人离开后的3%。最重要的是，英国人蓄意摧毁了我们的文化，而印度从那时起就一直在努力恢复。我坚信，对印度来说，被核弹物理摧毁，都比在200年里日复一日地被摧残要好。

就是在这样的基础上，仅仅75年时间，印度就拥有了很酷的航天机构、世界第四强的军队、第三强的空军、第四大且增长最快的经济体，是唯一自主研发核武器的国家，拥有核三位一体打击能力，到2026年将拥有国产第五代战机，还有一流的大学和一个实际运行的民主制度。我们是“世界的后台办公室”（对此不怎么自豪），到2030年将建立自己的平台和大量科技创业公司（为此感到自豪），还有一些很酷的基础设施、顶尖的情报机构、能制造半导体（比台湾（地区）落后7年）、高超的外交手腕、在外交事务中真正的自豪感等等。

到2030年，印度将会有很多大动作。我或许有些乐观，但我坚信印度可以成为世界的创意之都（电子游戏、动画、设计、宝莱坞、网络剧等等），可以形成自己的本土技术，在道路建设上有所作为，取代波音制造商用飞机（刚刚签了协议），取消金融管制，生产本土太空设备、国防技术，并成为中国在制造业方面的亚洲替代方案。

我的重点是，印度仅仅独立了75年，起点却比许多国家差得多。加拿大1867年独立，美国1776年独立，而中国和日本从未被殖民过。

话虽如此，我们仍有上百个重大问题需要解决，必须开始努力了。去他的丘吉尔，我的吐槽到此结束，谢谢！

Electronic-Salad5405

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We have to always take into account the legacy we were bestowed with and the humongous diversity the country has. However, people especially on Reddit (or any other SM) have become so politically polarised that they want the country to fail to justify their political inclinations. There is no ground for having issue based discussions above political slandering. Political parties are just a reflection of the society. If us, the educated don’t initiate issue based discourse and resort to petty politics to boost our own ego, there is no incentive (or pressure) for parties to do so.

Remember, we could have become Sudan, Pakistan etc. with so many fault lines, abject poverty, legacy of partition and what not. Yet we have managed to pull millions out of poverty, increase our cultural footprint, become a militarily strong power with one of the fastest growing economies, and a largely peaceful nation both within and outward. Yes, several issues still persist. But the journey of India is of hope towards a better future, despite of all the difficulties we have both within and outward.

我们必须时刻考虑到我们继承的历史遗产以及这个国家巨大的多样性。然而，现在的人们，尤其是在Reddit（或其他社交媒体）上，已经变得极度政治两极化，他们甚至希望国家失败，只为证明自己的政治倾向是正确的。在政治诽谤之上，已经没有就事论事讨论问题的空间了。政党不过是社会的一面镜子。如果我们这些受过教育的人不主动发起基于议题的讨论，反而沉溺于琐碎的政治争斗来满足自己的虚荣心，那么政党也就没有动力（或压力）去这么做了。

请记住，我们本可能成为苏丹、巴基斯坦那样的国家，面临着无数的社会裂痕、赤贫、分治遗留问题等等。然而，我们成功地让数百万人脱贫，扩大了我们的文化影响力，成为了一个拥有最快增长经济体之一的军事强国，并且在国内外都大体上是一个和平的国家。是的，很多问题依然存在。但印度的征途是充满希望的，尽管内外都困难重重，我们仍在迈向一个更美好的未来。

DearHippo9388

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Not everyone reasons my friend!

我的朋友，不是每个人都讲道理的！

Debunk2025

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Frankly, the country developed dramatically since 2014. No doubt about it. The highways, ports, airports, telecom, GDP growth, UPI , digital transformation of the economy, industry, etc.. everything grew very well last 11 yesrs. Now there is a momentum in the economy, which must not be wasted.

So, what is going wrong ?.

There is immense waste of resources, funds, time and effort due to several factors such as huge time wasting red tape, a dysfunctional legal and justice system, corruption ridden nexus, etc etc.

So while the country grows rapidly, the benefits of that growth, a good portion of it is being wasted away.

Hence, in order to get the benefit of a decent 5% growth, the country must sweat and struggle for a 7% + growth.

This is the main problem facing the country. Getting only benefit of 70% of GDP from the 100% disbursed in a financial year.

坦白说，自2014年以来，国家发展迅猛，这是毫无疑问的。高速公路、港口、机场、电信、GDP增长、UPI、经济和产业的数字化转型等等……过去11年里一切都发展得很好。现在经济有了势头，决不能浪费掉。

那么，问题出在哪里呢？

由于一些因素，比如极其浪费时间的繁文缛节、功能失调的法律和司法体系、腐败丛生的关系网等等，导致了资源、资金、时间和精力的巨大浪费。

所以，尽管国家在快速增长，但增长带来的红利，有很大一部分被浪费掉了。

因此，为了获得相当于5%增长的实际收益，国家必须付出汗水和努力，去争取7%以上的增长。

这就是国家面临的主要问题。在一个财年里，投入了100%的资源，却只能获得相当于70%的GDP效益。

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Most people on this thread lack the intellectual bent or awareness to understand what you have written here. I for one am very well read on these topics both from Indian and European (including British) sources and I completely agree with the destruction of India that was caused by European colonialism and how fast we have recovered to wherever we are now. Especially the growth after 2014 has been tremendous but as I said most people here do not have the level of awareness or capacity needed to understand this.

这个帖子里的多数人缺乏足够的思辨能力或认知水平来理解你写的内容。就我个人而言，我对这些有深入的阅读和了解，信息来源包括印度和欧洲（含英国），我完全同意欧洲殖民主义对印度造成的破坏，也认同我们恢复到如今水平的速度之快。尤其是2014年之后的增长是巨大的，但正如我所说，这里的大多数人没有理解这一点所需的认知水平或能力。

sreekumarkv

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Talk about critical thinking. You do know that before the British consolidation of power in India, India was a lot of divided regions, many of which ruled by islamic dynasties that had no particular love for India , right ?

>Especially the growth after 2014 has been tremendous

There was a tremendous difference in growth in the era before and since 90s. But saying "tremendous" after 2014 makes the political fan writing obvious.

说到批判性思维。你可知道，在英国巩固其在印度的权力之前，印度是由许多分裂的地区组成的，其中很多地区由对印度并无特殊情感的伊斯兰王朝统治，对吧？

> 尤其是2014年之后的增长是巨大的

90年代前后，经济增长确实有天壤之别。但说2014年之后是“巨大的”，这就让你的政治粉丝属性暴露无遗了。

ElFlitz

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Britishers also left India with 562 princely states so no diff in that

英国人离开时也给印度留下了562个土邦，所以在这方面没什么区别。

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