摘要：美国有线电视新闻网2025年9月18日报道，利奥十四世教宗在当选后的首次重要采访中，对美国发生的“一些事情”表达了担忧，并透露自己拒绝了打造“人工智能版自己”的计划。

自今年5月当选罗马教皇以来，利奥教宗一直秉持团结路线

美国有线电视新闻网2025年9月18日报道，利奥十四世教宗在当选后的首次重要采访中，对美国发生的“一些事情”表达了担忧，并透露自己拒绝了打造“人工智能版自己”的计划。

这位首位美国籍教宗强调了其前任方济各教宗今年早些时候致美国主教们的一封信的重要性，该信谴责了特朗普政府的移民驱逐计划。

他在谈及信件发布后主教们发表的公开言论时表示：“我很高兴看到美国的主教们对此积极响应，其中一些人还勇敢地践行了信中的精神。”

但利奥教宗坚称自己不会参与“党派政治”，并表示与特朗普政府接触的主导权应交给美国的教会领袖。

今年5月当选的利奥教宗接受了天主教新闻网站Crux高级记者埃莉斯·艾伦的采访，此次采访内容将收录于艾伦所著的传记《利奥十四世：世界公民，21世纪传教士》一书中。以下是采访要点：

对特朗普的移民政策等提出批评

一、美国籍教宗谈美国总统特朗普

利奥教宗表示，他尚未与唐纳德·特朗普总统有过任何直接接触，但他提到自己的哥哥路易斯·普雷沃斯特曾在白宫与特朗普会面。

利奥教宗称自己与兄弟们“关系非常亲密”，“尽管其中一人在政治立场上与我相去甚远，我们的观点并不一致”。

教宗表示：“美国正在发生一些令人担忧的事情”，而且“有时决策的制定更多基于经济考量，而非人的尊严与民生保障”。

据悉，利奥教宗对特朗普政府的主要担忧之一涉及移民问题，他在今年早些时候与美国副总统JD·万斯会面时就提及了这一话题。

利奥教宗表示，他不畏惧“提出问题”和“持续质疑”，若有机会也愿意与特朗普直接对话。他称，与阿根廷籍的前任不同，“我是美国人这一事实意味着，人们无法像评价方济各教宗那样对我说‘他不了解美国，根本不清楚那里发生了什么’，这是很重要的一点”。

他强调，对于特朗普“推动世界和平”的努力，他“愿意提供支持”。

但他表示，自己将主要寻求与美国主教们合作，不会“卷入党派政治”；当被问及美国籍教宗的身份是否能让他对特朗普产生更大影响力时，他回答：“未必。”

利奥教宗的表态显示，他对特朗普的态度将比其前任更温和，但在必要时仍会直言不讳。当选教皇前，利奥曾转发过批评特朗普和万斯的推文。

全球人工智能公司领先人物群英像

二、利奥教宗拒绝创建“人工智能版的自己”

这位全球14亿罗马天主教徒的精神领袖，谈及了一个足以让千年来担任这一职位的前任们困惑的话题：人工智能。

教宗希望教会就这一话题“发声”，并警示那些“投资人工智能的超级富豪，他们完全忽视了人的价值与人类的意义”。

利奥教宗表示，他拒绝批准打造“人工智能版自己”的计划。该计划原本设想“任何人都可以登录某个网站，与‘教宗’进行私人会面”并获取问题答案。

他解释道：“我说‘我不会批准这个计划’。如果说有谁不应以虚拟形象出现，教宗肯定是其中之一。”但他没有详细说明该提案的提出者是谁。

他强调自己并不反对人工智能，但表示若失去信仰与科学之间的联系，“科学将沦为空洞、冰冷的躯壳”。

自10月7日袭击事件后以色列发动攻势以来，加沙已陷入人道主义危机，数万人丧生

三、称加沙的局势“极其、极其严峻”，但未明确认定存在种族灭绝

利奥教宗在提及加沙可能正在发生种族灭绝的情况时称：“‘种族灭绝’这个词被越来越频繁地提及”。

然而，尽管国际社会的相关指控日益增多，但他本人并未明确认定这一事实。本周，联合国一项独立调查首次在报告中认定以色列在加沙对巴勒斯坦人实施了种族灭绝，以色列政府则驳斥该报告“歪曲事实、虚假不实”。

利奥教宗表示：“从官方角度而言，梵蒂冈教廷认为目前无法就此做出任何认定。‘种族灭绝’有非常严格的技术性定义，但越来越多的人开始提及这一问题，包括以色列国内的两个人权组织也发表了相关声明。”他将加沙的局势描述为“极其、极其严峻”。

神父性侵上万儿童事件成为教会的耻辱

四、认为神职人员性侵问题仍“未解决”

利奥教宗表示，神职人员性侵是“一场切实的危机”，必须持续应对，且目前这一问题“仍未解决”。他称，教会必须对“人们在神职人员手中所承受的痛苦与磨难”表现出“深切的关怀与同情”。

但他同时也表示，性侵问题不应成为“教会关注的核心”，被指控者拥有自身权利，而且有时也存在被诬告的情况。

支持传统家庭理念但对多性选择持包容态度

五、教会有关性伦理的教义“不太可能”改变

利奥教宗表示，他将延续方济各教宗对天主教多性（LGBTQ+）群体的包容态度，但补充称，教会有关性伦理的教义“极不可能”发生改变。

他说：“我想表达的，正是方济各教宗曾清晰传达的理念。他常说‘所有人，所有人，所有人’每个人都受到欢迎，但我邀请一个人，并非因为他属于或不属于某一特定群体。我邀请他，是因为他是上帝的儿女。”

教宗的表态表明，他将谨慎延续方济各的做法，但也会设定一些界限。

他对北欧部分教会发布同性伴侣祝福正式仪式表示担忧，称这违背了方济各在该领域的开放方向。2023年，方济各曾允许神父为同性伴侣提供非正式、非礼仪性的祝福。

利奥教宗还表示，“传统家庭”（父亲、母亲、子女）需要得到支持。

支持女性神职人员担任教会的领导职务

六、认为女性神职人员的角色“需持续发展”

利奥教宗表示，他将继续推动女性担任神职人员的领导职务，且对女性角色的认知“需持续发展”。

他说：“我希望追随方济各教宗的脚步，包括在教会生活的不同层面任命女性担任一些领导职务。”

关于女性执事祝圣（执事是神职人员，但不同于神父），他表示“目前”不会作出任何改变，但希望“继续倾听民众的声音”，并让研究小组持续探讨这一问题。他补充道：“我们会继续推进这一进程，看看后续发展。”

实拍中国唯一的祝圣教堂——青岛天主教堂

利奥教宗表示，短期内他将继续推行梵蒂冈教廷 “多年来一直奉行的” 与中国政府进行外交和解及对话的政策。但他补充称，自己 “正就当前存在的部分议题，与持不同立场的多位中方人士保持持续对话”。

2018 年，梵蒂冈与中国就主教任命问题签署了一份协议。据悉，该协议赋予中国政府在主教提名方面一定的话语权。

Pope Leo says he is concerned by ‘some things’ happening in the US in first major interview since election. By Christopher Lamb on CNN. September 18, 2025.

Pope Leo has pursued a unifying path since his election earlier this year. Remo Casilli/Reuters

Pope Leo XIV voiced concern over “some things” happening in the United States and revealed he turned down plans for an AI version of himself in his first major interview since his election.

The first American pope highlighted the significance of a letter his predecessor Pope Francis had sent to US bishops earlier this year rebuking the Trump administration’s immigration deportation plans.

“I was very happy to see how the American bishops picked that up, and some of them were courageous enough to go with that,” he said, referring to public comments made in the wake of the letter.

But Leo insisted he won’t engage in “partisan politics,” saying it’s up to church leaders in the United States to take the lead on engaging with the Trump administration.

Leo, who was elected in May this year, gave the interview to Elise Allen, senior correspondent at Catholic news site Crux, for her biography, “Leo XIV: Citizen of the World, Missionary of the XXI Century.”

Here are some highlights.

American pope on the American president

Leo saidhe isyet to have any direct contact with President Donald Trump, although he pointed out that his older brother, Louis Prevost, had met with Trump in the White House.

Leo said he is “very close” with his brothers “even though one is far on one end politically, we’re in different places.”

The pope said there are “some things going on in the [United] States that are of concern” and that “sometimes decisions are made more based on economics than on human dignity and human support.”

It is understood that some of Leo’s main concerns with the Trump administration regard immigration, and he brought up the subject when he met US Vice President JD Vance earlier this year.

Leo said he is not afraid to “raise issues,” to “continue to challenge” and to engage Trump directly if given the opportunity. He said that, unlike his Argentine predecessor, “the fact that I am American means, among other things, people can’t say, like they did about Francis, ‘he doesn’t understand the United States, he just doesn’t see what’s going on’.”

He stressed he would “want to support” Trump in his efforts “promoting peace in the world.”

But he said he’ll seek mainly to engage with the bishops of the US, won’t “get involved in partisan politics” and, when asked if whether being an American pope might give him more sway with Trump, replied: “Not necessarily.”

Leo is signaling he’s going to be less combative with Trump than his predecessor, but that he is not going to be afraid to speak out if needed. Before his election, Leo had reposted tweets critical of Trump and Vance.

Leo says no to ‘artificial me’

The leader of the world’s 1.4 billion Roman Catholics addressed an issue that would have baffled his predecessors in the millennia-old office: artificial intelligence.

The pope wants the church to “speak up” on this topic, warning against “the extremely rich people who are investing in artificial intelligence, totally ignoring the value of human beings and of humanity.”

Leo said he refused to authorize plans for an “artificial me” which meant “anybody could sign on to this website and have a personal audience with ‘the pope’,” and receive answers to questions.

“I said, ‘I’m not going to authorize that.’ If there’s anybody who should not be represented by an avatar, I would say the pope is high on the list,” he explained. He did not elaborate on who put forward the proposal.

He stressed he is not against AI but said that to lose the relationship between faith and science “will leave science as an empty, cold shell.”

Stops short of declaring genocide in Gaza

Pope Leo raised the possibility that genocide is taking place in Gaza, saying that “the word genocide is being thrown around more and more.”

However, he stopped short of explicitly asserting this himself, despite growing international accusations. This week an independent UN inquiry concluded for the first time that Israel has committed genocide against Palestinians in Gaza, in a report the Israeli government rejected as “distorted and false.”

Leo said: “Officially, the Holy See does not believe that we can make any declaration at this time about that. There’s a very technical definition about what genocide might be, but more and more people are raising the issue, including two human rights groups in Israel have made that statement.”

He described the situation in Gaza as “very, very grave.”

Gaza is facing a humanitarian crisis and seen tens of thousands killed since Israel launched its offensive in the wake of the Oct. 7 attacks. Abdel Kareem Hana/AP

Clerical abuse still ‘not solved’

Leo said clerical abuse is “a real crisis” that must continue to be addressed and is something that is “not solved.”

The church, he said, must show “deep sensitivity and compassion to the pain, the suffering that people have endured at the hands of church ministers.”

But he also said that abuse cannot become “the center focus of the Church,” that the accused have rights and that sometimes there have been cases of false accusations.

Church teaching on sexuality ‘unlikely’ to change

Leo said he will continue Pope Francis’ welcome to LGBTQ Catholics but added that church teaching on sexuality is “highly unlikely” to change.

“What I’m trying to say is what Francis said very clearly when he would say, ‘todos, todos, todos’ [all, all, all] - everyone’s invited in, but I don’t invite a person in because they are or are not of any specific identity,” he said. “I invite a person in because they are a son or daughter of God.”

The pope is indicating that he will cautiously continue with Francis’ approach but is laying down some boundaries.

He raised concerns that in parts of northern Europe some churches were publishing formal rituals for the blessings of same-sex couples, which Leo said went against Francis’ opening in this area. In 2023, Francis moved to allow informal, non-liturgical blessings of same-sex couples by a priest.

Leo also said the “traditional family” – father, mother, children – needs to be supported.

Role of women ‘to continue to develop’

Leo said he will continue to promote women to leadership roles and that the understanding of the role of women has “to continue to develop.”

He said: “I hope to continue in the footsteps of Francis, including in appointing women to some leadership roles at different levels in the Church’s life.”

On the ordination of women deacons – members of the clergy but not priests – he said he isn’t going to make any changes “at the moment” but wants “to continue to listen to people” and allow study groups to keep examining the question.

“We’ll walk with that and see what comes,” he added.

China policy to continue

Leo said he will continue, in the short term, with the policy of diplomatic rapprochement and dialogue with Beijing “that the Holy See has followed for some years now.” But he added that he’s in “ongoing dialogue with a number of people, Chinese, on both sides of some of the issues that are there.”

In 2018, the Vatican signed a secret accord with China on the appointment of bishops which is understood to give Beijing some say in episcopal nominations.

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