摘要：Nobel laureate Paul Krugman argues that tariff “chaos” and Trump's immigration policies are the real drag on growth by raising cos

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Nobel laureate Paul Krugman argues that tariff “chaos” and Trump's immigration policies are the real drag on growth by raising costs, freezing investment, and ultimately hitting consumers. He says a 1950s-style manufacturing revival is illusory, tariff revenue won’t fix the deficit, and U.S. trade-rule credibility has suffered lasting damage. On New York City politics, he expects only marginal policy shifts if Democratic nominee for mayor Zohran Mamdani wins.

诺贝尔奖得主保罗·克鲁格曼认为，关税“混乱”和特朗普的移民政策才是经济增长的真正障碍，它们通过提高成本、冻结投资并最终影响消费者来拖慢经济。他表示，50年代风格的制造业复兴是一个幻想，关税收入无法解决赤字问题，而且美国的贸易规则信誉已经遭受了长期损害。在谈到纽约市政治时，他预测，如果民主党市长候选人佐赫兰·曼达尼当选，政策只会有边际性的变化。

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@ucruci

Arresting then roughing up 400+ highly trained engineers from a foreign county who were building factories in US probably isn't the way to bring manufacturing back to USA.

逮捕并粗暴对待400多名来自外国的高技能工程师，他们正在美国建厂，显然不是让制造业回归美国的正确方式。

@wthomas5697

Electing an idiot to the highest office in the land is always a very bad sign. Especially when you did it once already.

选举一个傻瓜到国家最高职位，永远是一个很糟糕的信号。尤其是在你已经这么做过一次的情况下。

@handlaidtracksand3dprinted922

Trump has done the amazing - the decoupling of the entire world from the USA.

特朗普做到了不可思议的事情——让整个世界与美国脱钩。

@seddik6522

The forest was shrinking, but the trees continued to vote for the axe. For the axe was clever and convinced the trees that, because its handle was made of wood, it was one of them.

森林在缩小，但树木继续给斧头。因为斧头很聪明，且说服了树木，认为它是它们中的一员，因为它的柄是木做的。

@stevehunter291

Unfortunately as we are seeing with Canada, Brazil and India they are moving to isolate the US economically. Once trump is gone it will take decades to undo the harm.

不幸的是，正如我们从加拿大、巴西和印度所看到的那样，他们正试图将美国经济孤立起来。一旦特朗普下台，恢复所造成的伤害将需要几十年。

@todaywefly4370

It’s getting tiresome to listen to endless experts explain what is going wrong with Trumps administration. It is patently obvious to just about everyone else in the world that America is sliding into a pit that will take decades to rise out of. No one trusts America anymore, no one respects them much anymore and most importantly no one is investing long term anymore. How is he getting away with it!

听无数专家解释特朗普政府出了什么问题，真让人感到疲惫。对几乎全世界的人来说，美国正在滑入一个需要几十年才能爬出来的深坑。现在没有人再信任美国，几乎没有人再尊重他们，最重要的是没有人再做长期投资了。他是怎么逃脱的！

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@mildlyAnnoyed123

Trump’s policies are disastrous, but the fact that he was elected twice and still has the backing of over 40% of Americans is an indictment of the nation itself. America feels broken—and dangerously so.

特朗普的政策灾难性，但他曾经两次当选，且仍然获得超过40%的美国人支持，这本身就是对国家的指控。美国感觉已经崩溃——而且是危险的崩溃。

@michaeldowson6988

This started with Reagan. The Reaganites realized they lost the domestic propaganda war that was essential to winning in Vietnam, because of educated Americans' protests. So they started the long process of denying proper public education, and increasing the public propaganda campaign in its' place.

这一切始于里根。里根派意识到，他们在越南战争中败北的原因之一是美国受过教育的民众抗议使得国内的宣传战争失败。因此他们开始了长期的过程，否定适当的公共教育，并用增加的公共宣传战替代。

@zhli4238

Factory capacities are not there anymore. Factories, equipments, skilled industrial labor, supply chains ... those things have been diminishing for decades. Price alone won't play magic to bring them back.

工厂的生产能力已经不存在了。工厂、设备、熟练的工业劳动力、供应链……这些东西已经消失了几十年。仅凭价格并不能使它们重新回来。

@raym6747

Why nobody stands up against this adminstration violating what they build up in almost 1 century as the professor mentioned..?

为什么没有人站出来反对这个政府违反了他们在近一个世纪中建立的东西，正如教授所说？

@nancy4366

Tariffs won't bring back manufacturing because manufacturing requires many many different components to any one product and those components come from all over the world and tariffs are shutting down the suppliers for all the components that we would need to manufacture these products. Also Americans aren't going to work for his cheap as overseas so it would cost companies too much money to manufacture these items and products right here in the usa. Also Americans don't want manufacturer type jobs without unx and without Healthcare and without job security. That's why

关税不会带回制造业，因为制造业需要来自世界各地的许多不同组件，而关税正在关闭所有这些供应商，导致我们无法获得制造这些产品所需的组件。此外，美国人不会以低于海外工资的价格工作，因此美国公司在本土制造这些产品的成本会过高。而且美国人不愿意从事没有工会、没有医保和没有工作保障的制造类工作。这就是原因。

@ScottyTBoner

I lived in China for over a decade. And I lived in Canton where most of the manufacturing takes place. I hated living there because the air pollution made me sick. I rarely saw a blue sky. Driving at night, it looks like you’re driving through fog. And there was always this sort of rotten egg smell in the air. If we want to bring that to the US for the sake of owning the rest of the world, I’m not for it. And I don’t think Americans will do that kind of work as it is.

我在中国住了十多年，住在广东，那是大部分制造业的所在地。我讨厌住在那里，因为空气污染让我生病。我几乎从未看到过蓝天。晚上开车，感觉像是开车穿越雾霾。而且空气中总是有一股像腐烂鸡蛋的臭味。如果我们为了控制世界其他地方而将这种情况带到美国，我是反对的。而且我不认为美国人会做这种工作。

@ramospk

The thing about raising tariffs to reduce our budget deficit is that Trump blew up the deficit by granting huge tax breaks to the rich. Now, everybody that buys a T-shirt is helping Trump pay off that portion of the deficit. Where is that fair?

提高关税以减少预算赤字的问题在于，特朗普通过大幅减税给富人而炸毁了赤字。现在，买一件T恤的人实际上是在帮助特朗普偿还那部分赤字。这怎么公平？

@geoffhead111

americans play a very stupid game with the 'socialist' label. socialism informs many functions of our society. you like a good wage? youre a socialist. you like workplace safety? youre a socialist. you think unxs protect us from rapacious bosses? youre a socialist. etc. socialists have been informing economic, legal and social philosophies since 1840

美国人玩弄‘社会主义’标签的游戏真的很愚蠢。社会主义影响了我们社会的许多功能。你喜欢好工资吗？你是社会主义者。你喜欢工作场所的安全吗？你是社会主义者。你认为工会保护我们免受贪婪老板的侵害吗？你是社会主义者。等等。社会主义自1840年以来一直在塑造经济、法律和社会哲学。

@rickciaburri2598

Tariffs are simply increasing taxes on regular consumers, and protecting the fortunes of billionaires by reducing their tax obligations . The end user pays for everything.

关税实际上是在增加普通消费者的税负，并通过减少亿万富翁的税收义务来保护他们的财富。最终用户承担一切费用。

@ApLemon

We have not even concluded his first year and this is already a mess! I can't imagine what other horrible things can happen within the rest of his term.

我们连第一年都还没结束，这已经是一团糟！我真不敢想象剩下的时间里会发生什么可怕的事情。

@aperson5062

As someone with a degree in economics, Trump policy is terrible. It is lowering the standard of living by raising the cost of goods. At the same time, it is ruining our export market for the products we do export as they are boycotted in retaliation. The lost of trust in the USA as a dependable partner is causing Canada, our closest friend to buy new fighter jets from Europe because they can't trust America not to hold parts hostage. This is not a short term dispute, this is long term reputational damage as well as economic damage.

作为一名经济学学位持有者，特朗普的政策很糟糕。它通过提高商品成本来降低生活水平。与此同时，它也在破坏我们出口的市场，因为我们的产品在报复中被抵制。美国作为一个可靠合作伙伴的信任丧失，导致我们的亲密盟友加拿大不得不从欧洲购买新的战斗机，因为他们不再相信美国不会挟持零部件。这不仅是一个短期的争议，而是长期的声誉损害以及经济损失。

@geohhoeg8630

63% of working PHDs in medicine and engineering are immigrants. Not complimentary. That makes it so that we don’t tax enough to pay for a good educational system and companies still get cheap high skill labor.

63%的医学和工程领域的在职博士都是移民。这并不是个赞美。这使得我们无法征收足够的税款来支持一个良好的教育系统，同时公司依旧能够获得廉价的高技能劳动力。

@gautamganguli1221

Cheap and abundant labor,mostly imported(think slavery in US) has always been a cornerstone of advanced civilizations.Till a year back US had cheap gadgets from China,cheap farm workers from Mexico and cheap IT workers from India. Trump saw the long term danger in this for US- but tried to force his model(seriously flawed) on the world. He- and his supporters- are realizing the serious limits to US power- and US consumers will pay.

廉价且丰富的劳动力，主要是进口的（想想美国的奴隶制），一直是先进文明的基石。直到去年，美国还从中国获得廉价的小商品，从墨西哥获得廉价的农场工人，从印度获得廉价的IT工人。特朗普看到了这一点对美国的长期危险——但他试图把自己的模式强加给世界（这个模式严重有缺陷）。他和他的支持者现在意识到美国力量的严重局限——而且美国消费者将为此买单。

@LautrectheGuilty

I mean in the US the law counts for nothing now so, you'd have to be nuts to be looking to America as a reliable partner again. We might work with them for now because of momentum but are absolutely seeking viable alternatives.

我的意思是，现在在美国，法律已经不算什么了，所以如果你还把美国当作可靠的伙伴，那你得有点疯狂。我们现在可能因为惯性和动力与他们合作，但绝对在寻求可行的替代方案。

@sbjchef

American warlord capitalism wouldn't work without a poor underclass working to survive, read your own history, indentured servitude, slavery, share cropping, convict labour and poor immigrants, so who is next? because without the gross input of this labour the underlying engine of growth will collapse, innovators and entrepreneurs require that labour pool to service the people who run their enterprises and create the innovations.

美国的军阀资本主义若没有一个贫穷的下层阶级为生存而工作，是行不通的，读一下你们自己的历史，契约劳役、奴隶制、分成农耕、罪犯劳动和贫困移民，那下一个会是谁？因为没有这些廉价劳动力的巨大投入，增长的根本引擎就会崩溃，创新者和企业家需要这部分劳动力池来服务于那些经营企业和创造创新的人。

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@xsliquidity

The purpose of tarrifs is to make foreign goods more expensive in order to discourage buying them. It encourages buying domestic goods, which require domestic jobs to produce. It increases economic growth in the domestic economy.

关税的目的是让外国商品变得更贵，以此来鼓励消费者购买本国产品，这需要国内的工作岗位来生产。这会促进国内经济的增长。

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@disco7128

Nothing pisses me off more than listening to Donald Trump brag about how much money he's robbed from us and our families. News flash: that money don't just come out of thin air. You are bleeding the people of your nation, dry and for what? What is he going to do with the tariff money? Cut more social programs? On our way to laissez faire capitalism where all of the social contracts with the government and the people are broken and everything becomes violent. The more they make, the less we make, this is just not sustainable. It's bound to go up in a blaze of Glory at some point and there's a whole lot of us and a very small amount of them.

没有什么比听唐纳德·特朗普炫耀他从我们和我们的家庭那里抢了多少钱更让我生气了。提醒一下：这些钱可不是凭空冒出来的。你在榨取你自己国家人民的财富，拿这些钱做什么？他打算用关税收入做什么？削减更多的社会福利项目吗？我们正走向放任自由的资本主义，所有政府和人民之间的社会契约都被打破，一切都变得暴力。越是赚得多，我们赚得就越少，这样是不可持续的。迟早会以一场壮烈的火焰爆发，到时候我们这一大群人，而他们那小部分人。

@rgrifferon

Americans can’t compete with the labor cost of other countries, it’s an impossibility. Those tariffs are taxes on the things we purchase, stop being stupid.

美国人根本无法与其他国家的劳动力成本竞争，这是不可能的。那些关税是我们购买的东西上的税，别再傻了。

@DerekDAngel

American manufacturing will NEVER compete against foreign manufacturing when our competition has less regulation, taxation, oversight, and restriction to raw materials.

We’re reducing domestic manufacturing by using tariffs sanctions to isolate ourselves from international free trade the global market. If you start a business in the U.S, you’re closed in on by parasitic “vulture” policies designed to restrict your ability to produce product at an efficient and profitable rate.

美国制造业永远无法与外国制造业竞争，因为我们的竞争对手在监管、税收、监督和原材料的获取方面较少限制。

我们通过关税和制裁来孤立自己，减少国内制造业，远离国际自由贸易和全球市场。如果你在美国创业，你会被“秃鹫”政策围困，这些政策旨在限制你以高效和有利可图的方式生产产品的能力。

One obvious point I never hear regarding the claim foreign companies will drop prices to cover the tariffs. For this to be plausible, one has to accept as a given that major corporate US purchasing departments have been ineffective at negotiating the lowest possible prices for wholesale imported goods.

Let that sink in; Walmart, GM, Home Depot etc can’t effectively negotiate the lowest prices. Sure.

关于外国公司会降价以弥补关税的说法，有一个明显的点我从未听到过。为了使这种说法成立，必须接受一个前提，那就是美国主要企业采购部门在谈判进口商品批发价格时一直无效。

想想看；沃尔玛、通用汽车、家得宝等公司无法有效地谈判出最低价格。真是不可思议。

Trust in the US is being broken down in months. It'll take years to restore that.

And even now many americans think they're in the best country that ever was or will be...

对美国的信任正在几个月内被破坏。恢复它将需要数年。

即便如此，许多美国人仍然认为他们生活在世界上最好的国家。

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